Happy to hear it’s coming!!
Congrats Christophe 
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Fantastic. I’ve not watched all the videos yet, but they’re really clear and the tool looks easy to use. Do you have an idea of the pricing yet?
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99 €
I hope that it is ok…
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That sounds more than fair given the amount of work that I guess has gone into it!
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Anyone else played with this yet since it came out? I bought the Loris thing the other day and tried just a couple of my own custom sounds so far, and I think there is lots of potential here.
Since the subject hasnt been discussed here recently, I suppose I should also link to the tutorial series of videos for Loris:
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I suspect Loris discussion belongs in this other thread, at least until there’s enough of it to make a full category.
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I’ve played around with it a little. I can’t get the in-app recording to work at all, which is a little tedious. It would be nice if it shipped with a small library of samples to get you started, and I think there’s also room for a little more discussion on what to look for in a sample.
Agreed. I’ve merged the two topics and renamed.
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Recently I bought Loris Synth v10 and have trouble to save the Analysis-File via “Save File for Eaganmatrix” to any location, there is no saving at all. Therefore, I cannot load it into my ContinuuMini. Anyone else has this experience? (My setup macOS Ventura 13.17.2, ContinuuMini with fw 10.44, Loris bought via App-Store).
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good news for those wanting to use Loris on Osmose.
can I get some clarification on this @Anckorage
my assumption is, the loris presets created before this update had control text that was not compatible with the Osmose usage of macros. (some formatting issue iirc)
so the loris editor has been updated to output control text that is compatible with osmose and continuum, so far so good.
but the bit I missing is the bit about copying control text from NEW preset to OLD preset.
partly because Im not sure what presets we are actually talking about 
the only loris presets I can find, (and the bit im sure to be getting wrong) are from haken.com/overlays - “free analysis and presets”
however, these are all ‘old’ … (jan/feb 25)
so I tried to load these into the Loris Synth, and resave … hoping to get new format,
but I can see the control text does not change, so cannot see this will work on Osmose?!
could you shed some light on what im missing :and my ignorance laughing:
note: Im doing this all on a EMM as its easier to do at my dev desk, before moving over to the Osmoe in my music area.
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Loris documentaton…
p.s. the above documentation ( haken.com/overlays) say the Loris user guide can be access via a link on the website, or via the cog in the haken editor but neither work, so not sure where to get that user guide from!
edit: ok, found guide its at http://tinyurl.com/LorisSynth (mentions this on macstore, be useful if it was in app ;))
edit 2: ok, Ive found the issue with the Haken Editor…
the Expressive E distribution of HE 1052 is ‘incomplete’, it is missing this user guide.
also for some reason, they have decided to remove the syspresets for other EM devices (continuum, EMM) etc.
@Anckorage , can you have a ‘word’ with expressive e.
those of us with both Haken and EE products need the editor distribution to be the same.
the EM ecosystem is complex enough, without having these (arbitrary) oddities introduced.
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ok… so a bit of playing about, and I can now get everything working on the Osmose
to understand what’s been fixed, and what is not working explains the issue…
as above, control text was incompatible for the osmose
(due to frankly, it not having forgiving parsing on a what is a human editable text field ! )
in the loris presets (and perhaps other overlays) there are two issues
a) overlay specified at start of control text
e.g. ovl=Loris1Shot
osmose does not, need this, but it barfs on it.
FIX : move to end of control text
**b) space between macro ii and iii
yeah, this is kinda of dumb to barf on
e.g.
I=start ii=length iii=SetSelect_1_2_3_4_5_6_7_8_9_10FIX: remove the extra space between ii and iii.
so
I=start ii=length iii=SetSelect_1_2_3_4_5_6_7_8_9_10example:
before :
"ovl=LorisCycle i=start ii=length iii=SetSelect_1_2_3_4_5_6_7_8_9_10 iv=Speed v=formant_0a vi=DevFreq m16=Frmt Tracking m18/19!FM
m7: Noise Lvl - m8=High Partial Att - m9=Y on speed - m10=Convol Tune - m11=Convol Mix - m12=Spread Freq - m14/15/17=Freq/Re"after:
"i=start ii=length iii=SetSelect_1_2_3_4_5_6_7_8_9_10 iv=Speed v=formant_0a vi=DevFreq m16=Frmt Tracking m18/19!FM
m7: Noise Lvl - m8=High Partial Att - m9=Y on speed - m10=Convol Tune - m11=Convol Mix - m12=Spread Freq - m14/15/17=Freq/Re ovl=LorisCycle "hopefully expressive E will improve their parsing for the future to be more ‘forgiving’.
also there are two limitations (again lets hope for an EE update)
i) no support for enumerated times
e.g. selecting the analysis set should read 1 to 10, but its ignoring this and displaying as nonsense values 0-127
ii) no support for macros > 6, as introduced by latest firmware.
a pretty big limitation for new overlays
as EE have expressed they want to bring a better onscreen editor (?!), Im assuming both of these are on their to-do list.
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You are right, I just did a small work around by rearranging the control text to avoid sides issues of the simplistic parsing in the Osmose (and it too forever because Apple changed its submission rules just before my submission, but that’s another story).
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I forgot to update the Loris Synth doc in my latest update, it’s here https://drive.google.com/file/d/1m4P15lBsURbaj5p8ScmnB0v2WfahybdH/view?usp=sharing (thanks again to Richard Kram)
And yes, whenever you have an Osmose and any other EaganMatrix based hardware, just use the 10.52 from the Haken Audio web site: you just need one 10.52 Editor (there is absolutely nothing specific in the one in the EE distribution)
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Except, (as noted by RK elsewhere) that the EE distribution of the HE folder is missing files that exist in the Haken distribution. The gratuitous differences just creates confusion and mistrust in the community of users.
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had a lot of fun with Loris yesterday, on both EMM and Osmose
once you get the hang of it, the whole thing makes a lot of sense.
even without watching vids or reading manual 
, its pretty intuitive.
I will check your vids later as Im sure I’ll learn a lot, but I just wanted to jump in and get started.
one thing that struck me (that is perhaps going to be true of other overlays too), is
I see the Loris overlay as a way to create a particular preset, a kind of simplified/specific editor.
once you get the preset working as you like, you save it… then stop using the Loris overlay.
i.e. its kind of templating.
what Im thinking is… once the preset is generally sounding as I want, then I’ll edit it the preset in the EM Editor to change the macros over to things that I want ‘performance control’ of.
e.g. SetSelect is not really relevant, so I may want to use the macro for something else.
ofc, this means I have to be careful, since the barrel values are being used as part of the preset, so I have to go thru the patch and carefully replace with constants.
but lets see… fun times ahead
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Been doing sound design using loris and the haken editor for a month or so, slowly getting into the haken paradigm. I’m doing sound design for more than 30 years but haken/OSMOSE is something different than the other synths/modulars I’ve used. Maybe remember me a bit of the old serge with basic low level synthesis blocks.
Thanks @Anckorage and all the team!
Some taste here:
PS: @Anckorage would be great having a updated springsound iPad app. 
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Really hard right now to make preset selection in an app for Osmose, because EE broke preset query in the 2.0 update.
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Thanks 
I plan to work on SpringSound this summer (but this update will be quite a lot of work)
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Great news about springsound! thanks!
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