Hurrah, the long awaited v10.40 firmware is available!!!
Nice work and congrats to all involved.
mod edit: feature list for easy reference.
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yeah, its a great updateā¦ already on my EMM 
Im very excited to see what the community makes of the āOverlaysā, I really think this is going to open up the Eagan Matrix for many users.
now, just waiting for Expressive E to update the Osmoseā¦
the Osmose has quite a few synth patches, I can imagine theyāll be excited to update those to use the new filters !
Electra One support.
I was pretty excited by this, but its fair to say there are a few ālimitationsā to be aware of (at this time)
a) Electra One mk2 only
b) Continuum Slim is the only āsupportedā hardware
I say supported for (b), some of this is down to if its been tested, some of its down to bugs being investigated (EMM).
its unclear, if thisāll change in timeā¦ but means its a no-go for me at this time 
that said, I think for me personally, Im much more interested in using the E1 for overlays. this should be very possible on the mk1 and also across all models.
ofc, overlays will come from different developers - so it may vary between overlays what is supported and what is not.
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did Haken, accidentally, let the cat out of the bag? 
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So it would seem. According to Lipoid, theyāre expecting the enclosures next week and will be shipping soon afterwards.
I was interested the Electra One work, but Iām certainly not sufficiently interested to buy a new Continuum!! Equally, the Jenny overlay doesnāt work on my 46L2x unless I reduce the polyphony to 2 Still a little hacked off that the option to upgrade was removed after I bought my Continuum.
I do wish theyād list some presets that highlight the new Eaganmatrix features.
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cool, I think this is going to be an interesting product.
though, less useful to me now I have the EMM, would have killed for it before 
Electra One,
Im not quite sure why this E1 project is so dependent on hardware, and how much itās down to what itās been tested on.
I might give it a go with the EMM and E1 mk1, but I think the template is mainly for āglobal parametersā and showing presets etc, which I donāt have a lot of interest in.
theres certainly no reason why the E1 mk1 cannot be used for all EM products for things like macro control, and also the overlay stuff. it has very good midi support. which is more my interest, as it gives a āperformance interfaceā to it all.
yeahā¦ not been thru presets yet to see whats new.
Im pretty interested in the longer reverbs and additional convolutions
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I just got finished manually loading all the presets from the āExplorationsā folder into user slots on my ContinuuMini.
I havent got an electra one but there is a pdf about it included with the new editor download, and I think that document reveals sufficient info about compatibility, eg:
" Haken Continuum: (Current Support for Slim Continuum Only)
At the present time the Electra One controller assumes that a Slim Continuum running 10.35 or later firmware is being used (actually the controller was tested with 10.38, so that is the preferred minimum version to run on the Continuum). The Controller will not work with 10.09 firmware.
No testing has been on older āThickā Continuums. For now, it is only intended for Slim Continuums.
EaganMatrix Module: (TBD)
The EaganMatrix module should support the Electra One Continuum Controller, but currently these is a slight incompatibility that is being investigated. Presets are not being collected and displayed correctly.
ContinuuMini: (TBD)
Because the ContinuuMini is a USB only device and the current controller assume connection to the Electra One MIDI DIN ports, development of a USB only ContinuuMini version is currently on hold. Using a USB-to-DIN Midi host will likely allow use of the controller, but ContinuuMini testing has not be performed yet."
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yeah, thats what I was paraphrasing
ā¦ partly as I know a few have the E1 mk1 like me.
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Yepp, EaganMatrix Micro sounds interesting! When it was made specifically with controllers like the Warbl in mind then we can hope for a USB MIDI host port 
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Thereās no MIDI host port on the Micro. Itās basically a Mini with no playing surface.
Pic of the Micro from the "Whatās New document:
Randy George was demoing something very similar on the side at ContinuuCon 2024 with the Warbl. He had a little metal box with the brain taken from a ContinuuMini.
Lippold was recommending the CME Widi Uhost and another sold out device from the same folks
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Such a missed opportunity
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Check out the new Haken Editor 1040/HE/Explorations folder with preset collections from Christophe Duquesne, Ed Eagan, and Richard Kram.
A shame they didnāt include group listing files so you could load all in a folder at once.
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you mean because of a lack of usb host / midi din?
I do agreeā¦ its a strange choiceā¦given its ājust a sound engineā
though, it has to be a usb device to allow for the editorā¦
but I can see, its essentially just a mini without surface, something Id asked for from the outset
and for sure, adding usb host would complicate things quite a bit, and required quite a bit extra design work etc.
im a bit surprised no TRS midi, as we do have that on the EMM.
its not so hard to addā¦ given its only a serial connection.
that said, there are lots of options to do the bridging, so not a big deal (for me)
Im really interested to see the pricingā¦ its its āreasonableā, then Ive some ideas for it
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Iām guessing this is mostly a repackaging of the Mini PCB board, so the cost can be kept as low as possible, both for the finished good and in terms of development and support.
There might be a few differences ā it does have its own unique hardware code in the HakenMidi.h file.
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ok, so I had a quick look at thisā¦
its not going to run on E1 mk 1, because the Lua code takes up too much memory.
I suspect, this could be written a little less āverboseā, which would help a lot, but itād be a lot of work.
and, tbh, its not something Im interested in, as Im thinking of an alt firmware in C++ which would not have these issuesā¦but also a different goal.
as for working with other instruments (mini/emm) ā¦ should not be too tricky.
there are some hardcoded parts of the script that would need to be adjusted for other instruments. (e.g. factory preset lists are hardcoded)
bit confused by the manual , it says it cannot be used with the continuumini as they only have USB midi and the script expects DIN - but thats just not true.
by default the E1 will route āgeneric midi 1ā to/from both din and usb.
in fact, I connected the E1 via usb to EMM and it worked fineā¦
eā¦g macro control with bidirectional control was fine.
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